EP 144 with Steve Bartel

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How should hiring teams actually be using AI today? In this episode, James Mackey sits down with Steve Bartel, Founder and CEO of Gem, to explore where AI can create real value in recruiting, especially in outbound sourcing, candidate rediscovery, and interview workflows.

They discuss how AI can help recruiters find stronger candidates faster, improve calibration and talent planning, and reduce manual work without losing the human judgment that great hiring still requires. It’s a practical conversation about what AI can meaningfully improve in talent acquisition right now, and where teams still need to be careful.

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